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I've been away from LJ for 2 weeks.

Ended up having my little boy on May 22nd and hopefully i can post the birth story soon.



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He had his circumcision yesterday and it was a NIGHTMARE.

Cut for graphic details.



So my doctor didn't do the circumcision at the hospital because he said the Attendant wasn't available the day we were leaving. He had his vacation the whole following week(i was discharged on a Saturday), but he said he'd do it in the office within 7-10 days. He took both mine and my fiances numbers down again and told me he would call me to set up the appointment. Waited ALL WEEK and he never called.I had never had a problem with my doctor before and he was always very attentive and good and returning my calls. By Monday over a week after i was discharged and my son was 11 days old i called the office and told a nurse what was up. She was suprised that the procedure hadn't been done yet with him being over 7 days old and contacted my doctor to set up an appointment finally. So yester at one o'clock we went in. Him being 13 days.

They gave us a few pages on the procedure and what symptoms to be concerned about, i signed what needed to be. The nurse had told me the whole thing would take 45 minutes and that they would keep him for another 30 to watch how he was doing. Then my doctor came in explained the procedure and told me it would take 15 minutes....when he was finished and left to prepare the nurse came back over to me and assured me that it would actually take longer, 45 minutes like she previously stated.

We left the room and decided to go next store to grab a bite since of course being a new mom it's hard to get meals in sometimes. I got ansty after 20 minutes and all i could think about was him being strapped down and we went back. Almost as soon as we went in they came to the waiting room to get us. The procedure was done so we waited 10 or so minutes before he was to be checked again being told he was the first baby they had seen never cry during all of it.My doctor came back to check to see if there was any bleeding and as soon as he took the bandage off there was a lot of blood. The skin of the shaft had beccome completely seperated which i was told can somtimes happen but from the head to the shaft skin was almost a full inch! His skin was almost completely at the base of his penis. I watched as the docter tried pulling it up and could only help but think that it didn't seem normal for it too be that bad.

So he called in the Attendant who helped him and i'm not completely sure who actually preformed it. They strapped him down again and we watched as the put a gel foam on him to adhere the shaft to the head. Screaming at this point, bleeding all over and me by this point lactating all over the place, practically through my breast pads. The gel foam took and they wanted us to stay another half hour. I took this opportunity to try to feed him a bit and he was checked 3 times by nurses and one time by the doctor and we were told he should be just fine. BUT if anymore bleeding occured go straight to the ER, he might need to be sutured. We stopped at the store for gauze and Vaseline and let him sleep for 10 minutes when we got home before i checked him and tried to ready him for a full feeding.

I opened his diaper to find that he had soaked through the guaze already and i had to get 2 napkins to control the bleeding. I yelled at my fiance to get the car to we could go to the hospital. Of course we get there, had to register, see the triage nurse, do insurance crap and FINALLY get into pediatric ER.

(geez, this is getting long i'll try to get to the point)

Doctors come in to see him and he is GUSHING blood, soaking gauzes, and they give me more gauze and tell me apply pressure here & there and then leave the room. At this point it is just my fiance and i with my screaming little boy holding him down watching him bleed all over. He's hungry again, i'm lactating like crazy again and we have to keep calling the doc's back in because he's going through so much gauze. I asked the doctors about stitching and the likeliness of it happening. One response was "Oh no, that wouldn't fix this".

Then they proceed to leave us again & again, no nurses helping, us going through the cabinets to get more gauze, my fiance constantly going out to call the doctors back in. From what Dustin(fiance) told me is that everytime they were talking to other nurses or on their computer. At this point i'm furious, there were other kids in there but with (by the looks of it) only sprains and such. Not any others bleeding profusely. Especially not any babies. You'd think we'd get more attention. All the while asking me if any blood diseases ran in my family on the ocassion that they did come in. (Which they don't and i explained this 5 or 6 times)

I couldn't breastfeed him so finally i asked for some formula and Dustin had to hold up his head to fead him while i was hold his bottom together. AGAIN NO HELP and me furious that nothing had been done yet, him still bleeding and i can't hold him and feed him.

So i get pissed and after a good 45-60 minutes of all of thisand i said seriously, what the fuck are you waiting for?! Then they tell me that they are waiting for the right size suture. We had to demand to know this, were never informed. Then more waiting....and more aking from us of what the hell the hold up is. "Oh, we're still waiting for the sutures." FINALLY, the urologist comes in, straight to the point looks at it and knows he need a stitch or two because guess what.... THEY NICKED AN ARTERY. An artery! Which of course would explain the pumping blood and prove my other doctors IDIOTS.

The urologist and the lady with him were very quick to access and close him up, saving the day. They were kind, explained everything that was going on and very reassuring that he'd be okay. I had to watch him be stitched up at 6:30 close to almost 2 hours after we had gotten to the ER. Bleeding stopped almost immediately when they closed the artery and almost had to so his shaft so it would stay up. The bed, a pile of guaze, the bed, his clothes,blanket and myself all covered in blood. He was real pale so then they hooked him up to an IV and kept him on it for an hour and a half.

The stupid dostors then paged the on-call family practice doctor from which i go to and he came up to check on us. Obviously very apologetic and lightly trying to feel around about how mad we were and if we'd continue having him seen at the practice. I said ABSOLUTELY NOT. I also had had some problems with them last week with myself which i'll include in the birth story but after both problems there was NO WAY i'd be dealing with anyone there again. The idiot doctor who had been there all along told me he'd give some numbers for other pediatricians and said that we had to put him on Amoxicillin, by the time we were being discharged at 9:30(an hour later) he still hadn't given me the numbers nor the prescription and had to ask for both to 3 different nurses.

Needless to say i am beyond upset. I was a scary calm the whole time and a nurse even commented on me 'taking this so well' being a first time mom. I couldn't cry, i couldn't do anything....i had to worry about keeping my son together because no one else was!

Oh, and then Dustin overheard the urologist say to the doctors that if my son had bled for 15 more minutes he would have gone into shock.

How could my doctor not have known that they hit an artery?
If he thought that maybe he would need stitched, why not just do it? Erring on the side of caution?
How often do things like this happen with this procedure?





So i need your help.
Malpractice? Negligence?
Every single person in my family and my fiances is insisting we sue.

I have a hurting little boy who feeds like crazy so i can't spend hours on the computer to research information, statistics, legal advice, etc.

Your knowledge and opinions would be so appreciated!!

EDIT: to add pictures of my Boo.
Comments 
6th-Jun-2008 12:56 am (UTC)
Unfortunately, circumcision-related injury is very common, far more so than people are told by their doctors. I would recommend talking to a lawyer who deal in medical malpractice.
6th-Jun-2008 01:01 am (UTC)
I agree. Talk to an attorney. Jesus on a motorbike, this is a horrifying story.
6th-Jun-2008 12:59 am (UTC)
Wow. I don't have any advice for you but I just want to let you know that I *totally* agree with you...what he did was totally wrong. I can't believe you handled it so well! I would've been freaking out and shouting like a madwoman.

My fiance was never circumsised and neither will our baby (if its a boy), and if I was having any lingering 2nd thoughts on it, this just totally sealed the deal on that.

My thoughts are with you and I hope that buttface of a doctor gets his just desserts....maybe someone should sever an artery in his weiner? ;)
6th-Jun-2008 01:02 am (UTC)
get an attorney NOW.
6th-Jun-2008 01:03 am (UTC)
I have no advice, but I am so sorry that happened! How terrifying. I am glad he's "okay" now though.
6th-Jun-2008 01:07 am (UTC)
In my prenatal classes one of the pregnant ladies was a nurse. When the topic of circ. was brought up by the instructor the nurse pregnant lady said that she had seen literally thousands of "botched" circ. in her job. She said its extremely common.
Sorry your precious baby is going through this and I would definitely get a lawyer even if it is common its still not okay.
6th-Jun-2008 01:08 am (UTC)
Oh my. Out of curiosity because I couldn't tell from the post, have you been able to get him back to the breast to feed since this happened?
6th-Jun-2008 01:13 am (UTC)
I actually was able to feed him right before he was discharged in the hospital and he's been doing perfectly well since.

My only gripe is i'm still having to use a breastsheild since the 2nd day so i'm working on getting rid of that. But besides that he eats like a champ.
6th-Jun-2008 01:08 am (UTC)
Oh no! Poor baby! After being guilted for a few hours by my mother who insists my son is going to get teased in the locker room because I don't plan to get him circumcised, your story has made me feel much better about my decision to leave him as nature made him. I am very sorry to hear what happened to your little boy though, that must have been scary.
6th-Jun-2008 01:29 am (UTC) - sorry op, just interested!
Is circumcision really that common still? I don't think it is where I live.
6th-Jun-2008 01:12 am (UTC)
Lawyer up. Damages. Additional medical costs. Incompetence. Not treating a case urgently enough.

Save pictures of all the blood.. Everything soaked with the blood... all the gauze. Write out what happened now in detail (more than you did in this livejournal post).

Edited at 2008-06-06 01:13 am (UTC)
6th-Jun-2008 01:16 am (UTC)
The one thing i regret most is not having my purse, which i usually always carry on me and always has my camera in it. I left in such a hurry i only took his diaper bag. We threw away his clothes because they were still wet when we left with blood. I wish i would have held on to everything.
6th-Jun-2008 01:13 am (UTC)
I'm so sorry, mama. :( My son had a pretty crappy circumcision too, but nothing like that. My friend whose son was also born in October, whose son had excessive bleeding, said that 1/100 will have that complication. I don't know where she got her stats.
6th-Jun-2008 01:22 am (UTC)
This happens all the time actually. 1 in 10 have some kind of complication whether its excessive bleeding, MRSA, too much skin taken (which can damage erections later in life and cause skin splits when one occurs in severe cases), skin bridges, adhesions, or meatal stenosis (which can only occur in circed boys).

There's a few lawyers I can think of offhand that would take this case, but I hesitate to give you names/numbers because they are against circumcision overall and you are not. While I know they'd take the case because they're childrens advocates and they can ignore the feelings of the parents as a result but I'm just not sure pro-circumcision parents would really be comfortable working with them.

Your average lawyer will lose this case for you though, I can almost guarantee it. It's probably right on the consent form that you signed that excessive bleeding and even death is a risk of this procedure and you sign that paper knowing it. However I'm guessing you weren't given proper informed consent just handed the paper and showed where to sign so you'd have a chance with the right lawyer.
6th-Jun-2008 01:40 am (UTC)
I know that the consent form will be an issue and i am upset with myself with not being as informed with the risks/complications.

As much as i am upset with the procedure i'm furious with the response that i had in the ER and how long they let him bleed and the lack of attention he got.
6th-Jun-2008 01:23 am (UTC)
...I couldn't read the entire thing. I'm lactating and trying not to cry! =/ 100% FIND A LAWYER WHO SPECIALIZES IN MEDICAL MALPRACTICE. My little boy's circumcision went fine and I still feel horrible for him being in pain (and me signing the papers to say that it was okay to do so), so I can't imagine how you're feeling.

Lord. I agree with above stated comments--a lawyer who specializes in medical malpractice and take pictures.

You'll be in my thoughts.
6th-Jun-2008 02:12 pm (UTC)
u had ur baby??
6th-Jun-2008 01:42 am (UTC)
I'm so, so sorry. Poor baby:(

Joining the chorus of yes, it's more common than most realize and yes, get a lawyer.
6th-Jun-2008 01:43 am (UTC)
I agree with the previous commentors, and I also wanted to say that I'm horrified. You definately need to make formal complaints to the ped and the ER. I cannot tell you the amount of stupidity and rudeness I deal with at the ER (mostly because my son isn't vaxed, and because I insist on nursing him instead of giving him water or pedialyte or gatorade, and mostly because I routinely refuse to follow advice from the doctors etc.)

I'm not sure why you couldn't nurse (maybe I missed that part) but you really have to stand your ground in ER situations sometimes. It's sad but often you have to be your own advocate if you want anything done at all.
6th-Jun-2008 01:57 am (UTC)
It's hard because you think, ok these are doctors they know what they're doing right?
You really get a false sense of security.

I couldn't nurse because he was still bleeding all over and up on a table and i kept waiting for something to be done. We finally decided to give him formula because he hadn't fed in awhile and him screaming was making his blood pressure higher cause the bleeding to worsen but luckily it was only one bottle and he's nursing just fine.
6th-Jun-2008 02:06 am (UTC)
Holy crap, that's horrific. I'm glad your wee one is okay and I agree that you should sue if possible :(
6th-Jun-2008 02:07 am (UTC)
oh poor thing... just nurse him and snuggle him bunches. i know its rough but dont beat yourself up about it ::hugs::
6th-Jun-2008 02:34 am (UTC)
my husband says malpractice for sure, they shouldnt have let him go home like that. negligence perhaps, for the actual nicking. only thing is, suing is expensive to do and it's hard to know what sort of damages will come of it. either way, report it!
6th-Jun-2008 06:12 am (UTC)
This happened to my ex's older brother when he was a baby. Needless to say ex kept the penis he was born with. Unfortunate but common to have an injury from a circ.Sorry. :(
6th-Jun-2008 06:52 am (UTC)
That's so sad. My brother had problems with his for months after we was born (only 4 years ago) and it just wouldn't heal. It wasn't as bad as this but holy cow!
6th-Jun-2008 02:09 pm (UTC)
oh my , ur poor little baby boy. he is gorgeous, im sorry you both had to deal witht his so soon after his birth. congratulations on a beautiful baby and i hope the three of you get well soon.
6th-Jun-2008 06:07 pm (UTC)
Wow what a crazy story. I am glad your son is ok.

I just sent this to my fiance b/c I am still a little leary on the whole procedure and after reading this, I am even more against it so maybe he will feel the same after ready this.

And your son is a cutie!!! i can not wait for these last 15 or so weeks to hurry by so I can meet mine
6th-Jun-2008 09:10 pm (UTC)
Oh my god.

I am so sorry this happened to you.

Yeah, call an attorney.
6th-Jun-2008 10:40 pm (UTC)
I am so sorry this happened to you... I would definitely raise hell about all this. That was horrible treatment of a very serious situation. I hope that everything heals well with your son, and that there are no lasting effects (I'll be praying that he recovers completely). *hugs*

I agree with everyone else: You should pursue this legally
6th-Jun-2008 11:39 pm (UTC)
Holy shit. That is awful.

If we have a boy, I want him circumcised, since my boyfriend is, and I've only even seen one uncircumcised baby before. Now I really don't know what to do....


I hope your little one is doing okay..he's adorable! I hope you're doing alright too.
7th-Jun-2008 02:18 pm (UTC)
I believe it should be left up to the child when they are older. I know a few people who are cc that feel like a part of them is missing. One if even undergoing expensive reconstructive surgery. I think it is an unnecessary procedure and that the ultimate choice should be up to the person with the penis.
12th-Jun-2008 01:39 am (UTC)
wow, what the fuck.
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