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19th-Dec-2012 11:44 am [anterior placenta, movement]
I'm starting to get worried about this idea of doing a kick count. (Damn you, Google!) I've been feeling movement lately and have been since around 13w, but most of it is at night, and a lot of it recently are (I believe) a lot of hiccups. Not too many kicks or swishes or anything like that, though they do happen.

So of course, now I'm starting to freak out a bit. I'm not far from having to do kick counts, and I'm getting concerned that I won't be able to or that Kit won't be kicking enough, and that it would warrant a trip to my midwife.

Any tips on NOT spazzing? Did you experience any significant increase in movement from, say, 20 weeks to when you had to start counting (around 28 weeks, if I recall correctly)?

Thanks! :)

ETA: Anterior placenta, if that helps any!
19th-Dec-2012 04:50 pm (UTC)
I don't think I feel a lot of my fetuses' movement. I've spent quite a bit of time hooked up to fetal monitors and they're definitely moving, but I only feel the big stuff. I don't know how to tell you not to freak out, because I definitely understand, but for me the instructions to spend two hours a day lying down and counting kicks up to 20 is just so impossible that don't do it. If I have the time to lay down for that long, I'll be asleep in 30 min. And sometimes I don't have time for it. I just try to make sure that I feel them every day without worrying about the exact number.
19th-Dec-2012 05:00 pm (UTC)
but for me the instructions to spend two hours a day lying down and counting kicks up to 20 is just so impossible that don't do it.

Haha, right? I was trying to figure out the logistics, and it'd be weird to ask my boss (who is awesome, but may not be amenable to this, lol) to lie on his couch and count kicks for an hour or two. :P

Thanks. :)
19th-Dec-2012 04:54 pm (UTC)
I've had two babies and never done a kick count. That being said, it's really early to be worried about lack of movement. With my first I didn't even feel her at all until around 20-21 weeks and there wasn't regular, daily movement until several weeks later. At that stage they go through periods of times where you just don't feel them and that's normal. As baby gets bigger you will feel so many more movements. So, yes, there is a significant increase in movement felt the closer you get to 30 weeks.
19th-Dec-2012 05:02 pm (UTC)
Thank you! That's encouraging. I'm also curious why some care providers (I'm assuming... thanks again, Dr. Google...) would recommend kick counts and other personal accounts here say they don't? Not that I'd mind if I was told to do so, but now I'm wondering if I should even be freaking out about that.

Anyway, thanks! I'm looking forward to more, and hopefully not having to be as stringent with it. :)
19th-Dec-2012 08:44 pm (UTC)
I don't know why the discrepancy. I was asked at appointments if I was feeling the baby moving regularly and if there was a decrease in movements but that was about it. I think for me it would kick in my obsessive tendencies to actually have to lay down and count kicks because I would probably have worried about differences in the amount of movements and such. I figured as long as baby was active, things were fine!
19th-Dec-2012 04:59 pm (UTC)
I didn't even feel Evangeline til way past where you are now. I wasn't told to do kick counts til 39 weeks!
19th-Dec-2012 05:01 pm (UTC)
Really?! Maybe my midwives won't ask! I just read about it this morning and was like "OH GOD I'M SO BEHIND". ;)
19th-Dec-2012 05:04 pm (UTC)
you're not behind! The only thing my OB asked was IF I was feeling movement until I hit about 30 weeks and then they asked about decreases only. That's even WITH me turning from low to medium risk after my accident at 29 weeks.
19th-Dec-2012 05:13 pm (UTC)
Oh, awesome. :) That's really reassuring, seriously! Thanks, SB. <3
19th-Dec-2012 05:08 pm (UTC)
You're still way early for kick counts. I didn't start until 32 weeks, and my midwives didn't encourage me to do them until 36 weeks.
19th-Dec-2012 05:14 pm (UTC)
Interesting, thanks! I keep reading starting at 28 weeks and that's when I started worrying, as I don't feel anything remotely regular yet, and I'd only have 6 weeks?! Later is definitely better, I imagine. :)
19th-Dec-2012 05:09 pm (UTC)
You are totally okay at this point. I was much further along when I thought I hadn't been feeling my 1st move and they had me go in for monitoring. All they did was give me a sandwich and a soda and she started moving like crazy. Don't worry so much right now and if you ever think you go a period without feeling much, have a meal and some juice or soda and wait a bit.
19th-Dec-2012 05:14 pm (UTC)
Thank you! Yeah, sugar definitely gets this baby moving. ;) Not enough to warrant "kick counts" yet, but I will keep that in mind when/if my MWs ever want me to start!
19th-Dec-2012 05:10 pm (UTC)
I was really worried about kick counts, since I tend to be a hypochondriac. Most sources I've read say not to even start them until 28 weeks, so you have time. I personally did them a few times ... just lay down on my left side and marked Miles' movements in a notebook. There would be variations, but never significant enough to worry me, and always well within the recommended amount. Of course it's up to you and your care providers to decide what works best, and I don't want to advocate something irresponsible, but I found that I was very aware of Miles' movements and that it was just instinctive for me to keep track of them pretty much constantly. If I hadn't felt a solid movement in about 20 minutes or half an hour, I'd drop whatever I was doing and wait for a good kick or squirm, maybe drinking cold water, eating something sweet, or lying down if it seemed to take longer than usual. Now admittedly, he moved A LOT, and some babies move less frequently ... so in that case, I can see how kick counts might be a smart idea. And I was lucky that I never had a scare, but if I had, it would have been nice to be able to show concrete evidence to my care providers (i.e., "He usually moves X times in an hour, but for the past few days he's only been moving Y times in an hour").

If you tend to keep track of your baby's movements already and you feel confident that you'd notice quickly if something changed, and if kick counts would cause you anxiety, I think it's OK to make your own choices about whether or not to do them. My doctor never pushed it and seemed fine with me just keeping my own intuitive tally in my head ... but of course, before taking my word, check in with someone with a medical degree. =p

Edited at 2012-12-19 05:11 pm (UTC)
19th-Dec-2012 05:16 pm (UTC)
Thank you. :) I'm also at ease thanks to this because Kit doesn't seem like too much of a mover at all (definitely not like your LO!), so I'll try not to be too concerned. I'll ask my midwife if/when she recommends them, too. I kept going by that 28-week standard!

Haha, and thanks for all your advice. ;)
19th-Dec-2012 05:13 pm (UTC)
I haven't been actually counting but I can feel him moving plenty. You should be able to feel more in a few weeks.
I think the babycenter app has a kick counter tool if you think that may help.
19th-Dec-2012 05:14 pm (UTC)
I never did kick counts for either of my children. That's not to say I didn't pay attention. Just didn't take the time to actually count. I had it mentioned to me once when my son started to fail a NST when I was overdue. Little booger was asleep at the time. He finally woke up and passed.

Edited at 2012-12-19 05:16 pm (UTC)
19th-Dec-2012 05:21 pm (UTC)
My midwives never had me doing kick counts at all. I don't know if it's not their policy, or if the fact that the kiddo always kicked the heck out of the monitors every visit meant that it was obvious she was doing fine.

Yes, there will be an increase in movement.
19th-Dec-2012 06:01 pm (UTC)
I don't really count...but my baby feels like she's constantly moving, so if I counted, I would lose count and drive myself crazy. Plus, there's turns, and times when my belly is ridiculously lopsided, cause she has wedged herself to one side or another. She has her quiet times, but they don't last as long as they used to.

I'm 27w2d

The idea is just keep noticing when the baby is moving and only worry if it's been a couple days without anything...but you're still a little early to feel every little thing, so don't fret about it, yet. You won't even think about counting once your baby gets bigger and feels more active. You'll just know that it's ok. :)
19th-Dec-2012 07:49 pm (UTC)
I don't think my OB ever told me to do kick counts. I had a really active baby, so I was generally aware of him squiggling around in there. I did them sometimes, just for fun. Usually I was lying in bed at night and he'd get super active, so I'd start to count and then fall asleep. :P
19th-Dec-2012 08:32 pm (UTC)
I never did kick counts. Baby is a healthy almost 5-month-old now :)
19th-Dec-2012 09:06 pm (UTC)
I was never asked to do kick counts, but then my first was a frisky little critter and I felt him moving regularly from the time when you're can start doing them. I did ask my midwife about them and she said it was something they only asked people to do if they were concerned about a lack of movement. You'll probably notice a big difference in movement between now and 28 weeks!
19th-Dec-2012 09:21 pm (UTC)
With my daughter Ashley (who just fell asleep in her rock and play), she was pretty active end except the week before she was born, which resulted in an afternoon in L&D for monitoring and an ultrasound (she was fine). My doctor said hiccups count too for movement.

However, an anterior placenta acts as a shock absorber, so you may not feel some kicks. With my firstborn, I didn't feel her at ALL. Just something to keep in mind. :)

Edited at 2012-12-19 09:26 pm (UTC)
19th-Dec-2012 10:24 pm (UTC)
There was a huge increase for me, not just in frequency but in strength
19th-Dec-2012 11:00 pm (UTC)
The only time I did kick counts was/is post 28weeks (not that I remember it being that specific week, let's just say 'late in pregnancy' instead) when I realised that the baby was moving less than I recalled previous days.

I'd have a glass of cold juice/water/something and lie on my left with some TV or a book and just quietly see if that perked the little booger up. It usually did very very quickly. (And I'm doing the same thing this pregnancy, but it's not a huge worry just yet.)

I'm currently just past 34 weeks and baby has really slowed down - if I relied on kick counts I might go crazy - the baby has long quiet spells, and some active ones - right now the main game plan is to be a sloth and fatten up apparently - so kick counts aren't really helpful unless I poke bubs with sugar. An anterior placenta probably would lessen the feelings a little too?

I'd only worry about doing them if you become worried, and then I think it's ten distinct movements in an hour, but I wouldn't make a huge habit of it - that way would lie paranoia for me.
20th-Dec-2012 01:44 am (UTC)
I'm 37 weeks and have yet to do any official kick counting. As long as I feel kiddo moving around at some point during the day (most frequently after eating) then I'm not worried - sometimes I can't feel it internally but can definitely feel my belly move externally. They all have lazy days and more active days.
20th-Dec-2012 09:47 am (UTC)
Anterior placenta makes a LOT of difference. I had an anterior placenta with my first. I felt movement quite late and infrequently. It could never be felt from the outside.

With my placenta was high and posterior and I felt movement early and frequently. His movements could be felt from the outside. I could never have done kick counts with the first and he was born completely healthy.
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