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little weight gain and forbidden cravings 
13th-Jan-2014 01:41 pm [cravings/aversions, food, weight]
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I'm 20 weeks today with Grapple Loader (another boy, we found out last week), so hooray for halfway!

I'm 5'2", and started off my pregnancy at an uncomfortable 140 lbs. I lost five pounds during my first trimester from preggo nausea, and then another four pounds from horrendous food poisoning/stomach bug at 13 weeks. Since that time, I've only regained about five or six pounds. I'm not super-worried, since I'm feeling okay apart from a bit of toddler fatigue, but I'm wondering if I should be expecting a sudden jump in weight or what. Last pregnancy I lost 10 lbs too, and IIRC I'd regained it all by about 20 weeks, but every pregnancy is different, yadda yadda.

So we had the morphology scan last week and everything looked good. The baby seems a teensy bit smaller than Henry was at the same time (his scan was at 18+6, and he was 14 cm, this one was at 19+3 and he was 13 cm). I'm wondering if this is because of my slow weight re-gain, or just because it's a different baby or what? Our appointment with the midwife is this week, so I'll discuss it with her, but I'm just looking for your thoughts.

Also, nothing is tasting as good as the things I'm not supposed to have. I had an ice-cold Coke this morning, and although I meant to savour it because it was the last one in the fridge leftover from Christmas, I downed that sucker in about five minutes and it was goddamned delicious. Almost as delicious was the tuna sushi I had at dinner Saturday night, and the deli ham sandwich I had for lunch that same day, and the the ounce of red wine I nursed for three hours Friday evening. All I need is some toast with unpasteurized honey and I've got Taboo Bingo.

Man, I want another Coke... Gah.

ETA: I'm not succumbing to my cravings for the forbidden as much as that last paragraph suggested, it was just a really long week.
13th-Jan-2014 08:55 pm (UTC)
If it makes you feel better, my entire first trimester with this last pregnancy was horrible 24/7 nausea. The only thing that worked? Coke. My OB said if that was the only thing that worked, go ahead and drink it. One a day was fine. So if you crave those, it's probably not going to hurt. ;)
13th-Jan-2014 09:20 pm (UTC)
In my second pregnancy, I lost about 5 pounds in my first trimester and was really slow to gain it back. No real reason--I was eating fine (though I did have braces through my pregnancy, and that probably slowed my eating some), but I think I ended up maybe 18 pounds over my pre-pregnancy weight by the time baby was finally born. My doctor was mildly concerned when I didn't gain any weight at first, but once I started a slow upward trend she didn't worry. Baby was a healthy 7 lb 11 oz, so you might not see a huge jump and everything could be just fine.
13th-Jan-2014 10:01 pm (UTC)
I started out 6 lbs heavier than you, same height and I'm 19 weeks today and just saw my first uptick on the scale today of a pound so hopefully it is normal :) I think I might have had the same thing happen with my first, I do remember it was awhile before I started gaining so I think that is probably the norm.
13th-Jan-2014 11:26 pm (UTC)
wait...unpastuerised honey? I had no idea honey was supposed to be pastuerised...
14th-Jan-2014 12:56 am (UTC)
Most honey is pasteurized, but if you're buying it at farmers' markets and the like, in some places it's not illegal to sell it unpasteurized. It falls under the "nothing unpasteurized" category of Things Pregnant Women Ought Not To Consume, though most people think of things like milk and cheese.
14th-Jan-2014 01:07 am (UTC)
I had no idea. I just bought some local honey as well! I guess that's off the menu for me for the next little while :\
14th-Jan-2014 08:00 pm (UTC)
You can always contact the apiary and ask. Like I said, in some places it's illegal to sell it unpasteurized, so you may be okay. I've got a few in my collection (I have about 18 jars of honey from all different places in my cupboard, lol) that I can't eat, but most are fine.
14th-Jan-2014 03:36 am (UTC)
Call me reckless but after considering the published research and multicultural attitudes about alcohol I have decided that I'm OK with 3-4oz of wine every so often. So far I've done it three times in the last 19 weeks. I consider 6oz of beer of similar stature, but haven't had any beer since the 'morning sickness that lasts all goddamn day' hit. The sky hasn't fallen yet. And I still drink caffeinated coffee a 3-4 days a week.
14th-Jan-2014 09:29 am (UTC)
I'm not sure about the oz, since I'm too lazy to google the conversion from ml, but in Germany a glass of wine every now and then is seen as acceptable for pregnant women according to some recent studies. I personally don't drink and probably wouldn't, but I have had a small red wine dessert (a mousse) for christmas and don't think small amounts do any harm, especially if it's in the later weeks when the organs have already formed.
Since I've been working until a month ago I couldn't let off the coffee either, and I also eat salmon and tuna sushi, but only at the one restaurant where I know the chef and that he works very well and has a good eye on the quality of his fish (I'm also toxoplasmosis antibody positive from the time prior to my pregnancy where I spent long times cat-sitting, so I "only" have to worry about listeriosis). My gyn even gave me the green light for it. So far my boy is on the mark with the estimated weight and development.

I think as long as it's not overdone and you're not randomly stuffing yourself with unpasteurized food from doubtful sources (i.e. raw fish or wilting sandwiches with doubtful sauce from a stinky, grubby street vendor/snack point), you should be fine, OP. Cravings usually have a reason. The list of forbidden foods is really just to be as safe as possible, it doesn't mean that one bite of an unpasteurized camembert will make you and your kid ill. Just that it has the potential to contain stuff like listeriosis.
14th-Jan-2014 09:28 pm (UTC)
Yeah... I have no plans whatsoever on giving up sushi if I feel like eating sushi - it's not like Japanese women give it up during pregnancy! It's interesting to note the different cultural attitudes on pregnancy and food, and I wonder what the American/Western diet condones in pregnant women that might horrify other nationalities?
14th-Jan-2014 03:36 am (UTC)
I am firmly in the camp of moderation in "forbidden" foods. I personally think that as long as you trust your sushi, lunch meat, honey provider then eating some occasionally you should be okay. However, I wouldn't eat the supermarket sushi from an area that isn't known for having people who Iove sushi or prepackaged deli meat. ( or that has sat for awhile). My last two pregnancies I nursed wine once in awhile, ate sushi once or twice, ate unpasteurized cheese and honey, and ate deli meat sandwiches almost every week. Both babies are fine. You need to do what you are comfortable with.

I realize that some will say that I was reckless and of course you need to make choices that you are comfortable with, but personally I feel that the current medical statements of staying away from all things that could be potentially dangerous (vs things that are really dangerous) is silly. </p>

14th-Jan-2014 05:11 am (UTC)
Honestly, your weight is not bad at all - beating yourself up and stress is. Breathe deeply and try to relax a bit and enjoy your pregnancy. Women in Japan do not give up sushi while pregnant and occasional coke and sweet are also fine - everything in moderation. My midwives were fine with a small glass of red wine while pregnant and honey (esp local raw) is good for your immune system and allergy issues.
14th-Jan-2014 06:45 am (UTC)
When I went in for my 20-week scan, I had not gained a single pound. I gained 12 lbs. total, all in the second half of my pregnancy, and had a 7.5 lb. baby. (I started about the same size as you.) Aaaaand ... I totally drank coffee and coke in moderation throughout my pregnancy. I don't think a soda here and there is going to do any harm. Maybe try the caffeine-free kind if you are worried?
14th-Jan-2014 11:13 am (UTC)
Meh, I ate sushi (from a source I trusted), are deli meat (ditto), ate blue cheese made from unpasteurised milk (ditto again) and drank three cups of coffee every day when I was pregnant. I had a lovely lovely pregnancy, felt fantastic apart from a little pelvic girdle pain, baby boy was a good size and very healthy.

I wouldn't eat sushi from somewhere random, I wouldn't eat meat I didn't trust and I wouldn't drink energy drinks. I consider these rules to be guidelines rather than hard and fast 'rules'. Use common sense and you'll be fine. A coke every day is fine, just not multiple cokes. Some tuna sushi is fine provided you're not eating plates and plates of it every day. And so on.</p>

I did the brewer diet when pregnant and it made an enormous amount of difference to how I felt physically. I was 230lbs when I got pregnant, lost 30lbs from a combination of nausea, food aversions and eating healthier. I gained 45lbs back and then lost nearly 50lbs in the 3 months after I gave birth.

14th-Jan-2014 09:31 pm (UTC)
Why is multiple cokes a day not "fine"? If it's from a caffeine perspective, a can of coke has 1/4-1/2 the caffeine a single cup of coffee has (depending on the strength/size of coffee). If it's from a sugar perspective, it depends how it fits in with the rest of your diet and how well your body is processing sugar. I'm not advocating downing a whole much of cola every single day, but I'm not sure where you got that 1 is the limit, particularly if you're comfortable with 3 cups of coffee a day?
15th-Jan-2014 01:15 pm (UTC)
I remember craving for alcohol :)
15th-Jan-2014 07:53 pm (UTC)
I feel ya. I'm craving really really badly for sushi but of course I'm spooked by the midwife saying "no, bad". All I want is salmon and avocado rolls.
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